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Your rirght! The download speeds have now gone down to 3 kb per second!
Hope this will be solved soon.....

Is it possible to start some torrents? Someone with full file, please start it. Cant wait! :-)

I think the speed went down because lots of people are downloading it now! I just love new Slax and hope there you will be able to provide Office modules soon. Thanks for the great job!

In addition I have created a mirror for Slax-7x and Slax-7.x-development sections
at http://mirror.fluxflux.net/index.php?dir=ftp.slax.org.

With Tomas' permission it gets synced with slax.org.

I have created a rsync job to sync every 4 hours.

Manfred

Sad that can't download it today... Downloads are just breaking after some time... Will wait to mirrors thought :)

Oh man im diying to downlod the new slax 7 but it gets an average speed of 4kb!

It was realy stupid Idea to close good working site with forum and open tis new Jork without any modules and no forum!
You better open old slax6back!

So You found Mirror for 7 but not care about 6
and modules from 6-not compatible for 7!
Really SMART!!!

ex, the old site is still alive at http://old.slax.org/

Are the checksums posted somewhere?

I have slax on ext4 partition and today I ran into strange problem - I wasn't able to delete file slax/boot/ldlinux.sys, when I was replacing slax 7 rc3 with final slax 7.0, because it has set immutable attribute and the permissions was set to read only even for root. With the help of google I removed the immutable attribute (chattr -i ldlinux.sys), but I was wondering, if this is unintentional or it is supposed to be this way?

When you doubleclick address bar in firefox to select the text of the address, it causes the window to maximize. I think this maximize functionality should be possible by doubleclicking only on the window decoration.

From the new mirror I got 3.0 Mb a sec. Thanks!

780 KB/s new download site.

if you need one more mirror site for the iso files, send me a mail at -> mailto henrikhjelm.se

OK, I already download French version,, slow only 20 Kb/s...
waiting for stripdown Libreoffice bundle under 50 MB.

@ OOPS
"So You found Mirror for 7 but not care about 6 and modules from 6-not compatible for 7! Really SMART!!!"

You are free to use or not to use Slax 7 , so there is no need to be a "smart ass " about it.
Since Slax 6.12 is using KDE3 and Slax 7 is using KDE 4 , the issue of incompatibilities between slax 6 and slax 7 modules is inevitable.
If the KDE developers can't make KDE4 back ward compatible with KDE3 , what do you expect Tomas (a one man developer) to do ?.

By the way only about 15 of the modules are by Tomas , the rest are
system generated from slackware or contributed by users (the bulk of it).

,

My downloads of slax 7 seems as usual...

@Tomas M

Allowing ONE connection only to one ip adress is not smart.
Many providers have one ip adress to share among many users...
You just may create many frustrating people.

I point you out that i've got great difficulties to convince people to use a free distro, so...

Why don't you put some ISO's to sourforge.net if you've got some issues with downloads ?
Why don't you create a bit torrent file ?

@Anonymous user

A good distro have got the ability to use his old components with new kernel to his old stable release.
Slax 6 should have a new release at least in the kernel level...

No many guys have got a Core i7 with 16 Gb of RAM...

Some people have got an old computer with 128 Mb of RAM... and less.
(Pentium III)
It's disrespectful to let them down...

If slax would like to be known, it should focus on some good communications at least in good features...
I've always heard that Linux is for geeks...
This is the first reason why no one would like to use it...
Slax is for geeks in some ways...

(No burning gui is a bad strategy for example)

Slax is a one guy development team.
What is disrespectul about his engineering choices?
?
You have choices.
If your machine cannot run slax7 to your satisfaction, grab Puppy or TInycore or SLiTaZ.
If you want a new kernel, why not compile one and use it?
See if it works....

Downloand in maximum speed of my connection 1MBytes/sec.

Location: São Paulo, Brasil.

@Kadalka

you just like to complain
tsc tsc

make your own distro

@kadalka
I agree with gui. I think you are new to slax so your are making a lot of assumptions.

"Slax 6 should have a new release at least in the kernel level... "
Search for slax remix at slax 6 forum.

"(No burning gui is a bad strategy for example)"
Tomas have a "thing" about keeping slax 200mb . He used to say this is so that it can fit the small microcd .When someone pointed out microcd are seldom use (infact in most places it cause more than the standar 700mb cd), he say he prefer to be "slim and sexy".

So at 210mb slax 7 is "fat" by Tomas's standard . So he omit k3b cd burner , make_iso.sh etc.
Either he try to slim down kde 4 further to fit the "missing goodies" ,or we have to wait till he get used the the new "I am still sexy and there is more of me " slax 7. Personally I think he should raise the limit to 300mb.

If you use slax long enough , , you have to learn to accept Tomas preferance , or quit using , or fork slax (search Porteus).
The followings have been requested since slax 5 (maybe earlier but I only started with slax 5.1.8):-
(a) Gui installer to hard disk
(b) Torrent to download
(c) Diff file (so user can just down load the difference between release).

(a) and (b) Have at times been provided by users.

I think users need to cut slax 7 some slack.
At the time of transition between slax 5.1.8 to slax 6, in many ways things was smoother.

Slax 5 and slax 6 are both still based on kde 3 and slax 5 modules can work with slax just by renaming the module extension. It didn't break anything.

So a slax 6 page was added to the existing slax 5 forum. Slax 5 page was made read only much later when the new forum is up. It was read only for quite sometime before it was deleted.

There was ample time for the modules to be migrated and since slax 5 modules work with slax 6 , slax 6 didn't have to start from scratch.
Essentially slax 6 was a major upgrade of slax 5.

Slax 7 is not an upgrade of slax 6 . It's a new slax with kde 4.
When Tomas says he going to use kde4 , I think a lot of people didn't think he can bring it down to slax 200mb limit. As it is ,he came close.

So give credit when credit is due.
Slax depends on slackware and now kde 4.
So if your computer falls well below what is the minimum , I think you need to look into distro Puppy or Damn Small Linux.

Currently downloading Slax 7, US English, i486 32 bit zip, speed about 20 kb/s.
Looking forward to putting Slax 7 through its
paces as I've enjoyed Slax 6.1.2.
Thank you Tomas.
Wiz <{;-)

Downloading in Fort Erie, Ontario, Canada it took about 3 minutes to get the one with the name slax-English-US-7.0-x86_64.zip. I only checked the mb/s a few times, but it it seemed to stay between 1 and 3 mb/s.

Thanks for the great release. Its been a long time I tried Slax.

I found some problem with my wifi card.

It didn't detect my Broadcomm BCM4313 card properly.

I've tried the USB 32bit version of Slax 7

Recently I have bought a new Acer Aspire One D270, the machine has driver problems with most main new-kernel distros (Ubuntu 12.10, Mint 14, and etc). I really like to try Slax7 but I noted its kernel being almost the newest, maybe it has the driver then and maybe it's still missing. Has anyone experienced Slax7 on such a machine? It should be an issue with most new new netbooks with N2600 and N2800 CPUs I guess.
Thanks

Sorry I forgot to say the problem is mainly due to graphics!

DL speed is now OK, more than 2 MB/s, download completed in about 1 minute

Hello Tomas,
thank you for your work, just after pay-off flash drive will be my first choice as present for few of my friends. Just want to comment few things on web:
- contacts are missing, so that is reason why I'm using this comment
- md5/sha1 sum could be somewhere nearby download buttons
- there is strange problem with md5 sum... when I'm comparing : http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/slax/Slax-7.x/md5.txt : ac9d8a933262f66ac5250ff45a8e27a7 slax-Czech-7.0-i486.iso
with real md5 sum of iso downloaded, I can see that real md5 is different [I have tried to download file 2 times and md5 is 2 times same: see http://goo.gl/O8lQu ], zip md5 is ok, as you can see from screenshot.

best regards, Tom Petru [tpetru-gmail]

Hello guys,
I've created a torrent for these translations: cz, en-us, fr, de, ru, sk, es.
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:797f9fd5d6aa8eb5c939df654bb273be3302f37e
There's no tracker, you need to use DHT. Seeding 24/7.
You can find it on TPB as well.

Minimum 1.5MB/s, max 5MB/s. Md5sum is ok. Thanks for all your work on Slax.

Thank you :D the new mirror is wonderful fast :D

@Hezey

1/ What is disrespectful ? Kidding me ?
When you buy a car, and you know that there's no spare parts, would you like it ? Of course not.
This is exactly the same.

When Microsoft decided to stop XP, many people where angry...
They decided to continue XP ... for a moment.
If a big organisation like Microsoft decided to continue, who are we to stop something easy to do ?
It's not hard for Tomas M to make few clean up for 6.1.2
[Kernel for security reasons, etc.]

These days I've noticed that many guys complains because noone would like to use Linux.
If every distro are disrespectful noone would use any distro at all...

Is it what we want ?
I don't want that, I want to speak about OpenSource, but until today I can't.

You'are the good example of why I can't : You said I have choices.
Sorry but even me who uses many distros, I've noticed that I must choose one or two and stuck at it...
And until today it is not slax at all.

I've used Puppy, and what you've said.
There are not for me because there are not for long term use (and <200Mb : not for a general purpose).
I am like 90% of guys who have a computer [windows/Mac/unixes]: long term.

Even if I do like Slax, it is not for long term at the moment.
Slackware is for long term. So are debian, RedHat-like (Mageia), Suse, Arch, etc...

2/ When I speak it's not for me only.
I'm not selfish like you.
I'm thinking about what may interested 90% of people who does not know how to use computer correctly.
They do want what I said IN the CD, NOT OUTSIDE the CD :
a) GUI burning software (cdrecord is almost in the computer)
b) A suspend to ram and hibernate things.
c) A computer that do not crash at all...
Firefox ESR must be a good choice not 17.0.1...
Some people may even recommend midori...

3/ I know how to compile a kernel: I do it with debian...
(tweaks, compilation, packaging .deb)
My kernel discuss is for every one who do not know how to compile, not for me...

Just a quick question, has the Slax installer to install Slax as a full OS been removed? If so I'll have to do it manually.

Well, I downloaded Slax, but alas, as already thought it didn't boot into an X. When system starts to boot it warns me that "Undefined video mode number 305", then asks me to either press enter and select a video mode number manually or press space to continue or to wait for 30 seconds (which would be equal to pressing space!). I once pressed enter and among the choices there chose 800*600 (the real resolution of my 10 inch screen is 1024*600), and once pressed space, but the result was the same: After writing on the screen that

*Looking for slax data in /slax ................................................

it ends up to a command-line wherein neither "startx", nor "kdm" are not recognized:
[with the error massage that "Sh: can't execute 'startx' command: No such file or directory"]
and neither "reboot" nor "halt" works although no error is returned on the screen.

Is there yet any chance to run Slax7 on my netbook?

@gui

"you just like to complain tsc tsc "
I've got the right to complain, as you have, too. No ?
And it's not a real complain: it's discuss.

"make your own distro"
It's not hard to do: I just don't have enough time for that.
My Linux Mint is a customised one...
I've changed some incorrect rc.d, some buggy starting scripts, put some more appropriate /dev/ ...

Not everyone can do that. Could you ?

Please, stay correct

@jcsohearlier
"I think you are new to slax so your are making a lot of assumptions"
NOPE.
NB: improvments are needed if quality is the aim.

2/ under 200 Mb ? o_O
Why it is not XFCE then ?

3/ I accept Tomas preference, but it should be written in the main page, then...
So everyone knows that...

@jcsoh

When I use a live CD it's all in memory [copy to ram].
(mint, redhat-like (centos, etc.), ubuntu, debian-live cd, slackware based, etc.).
I even run Virtualbox with the ISO in memory...
(Yeah, to perform that you need strong computer with bunch memory)

@you both:

Thank you for taking the time to explain.
It's really appreciate...

@Kadalka

Sorry for interrupting your debate, but AFAIK Tomas can build a linux for himself and keep it for himself, but then people like him give the chance also to others for them to also be able to use it at no cost. That's it, he has no responsibility and anything that he is giving to you and me is a gift. So it is more nice to thank him, and even if his personal distro doesn't fit your needs then still be thankful for him being that kind to share his own stuff with you even though you are not the one who is going to use it. Complaining such is fair only if you have paid its cost, but I am trying to recall you we are all using his stuff at no cost.

@Tomas M

ALL what I ve download *yesterday* are ok :
1/ fast download
2/ md5 correct

@Noone

Thanks for those who needs it...

jcsoh and jcsohearlier is the same

@ Kadalka

I stand by my statement that you are new to slax .
Proof "under 200 Mb ? o_O Why it is not XFCE then ? "
If you had spend any reasonable amount of time in slax forum , then you know the answer (hint : Tomas preferance on kde).

@ Rasul

With regard to Slax 7 , this time is difference . Tomas have professional obligation to the two financial sponsors listed below vis a vis whatever terms in the agreement between them.

For eg with regard with whatever "creative control or preference " for eg who decide what , they may have left up entirely to Tomas , but I am sure as a professional he would like his sponsors to be happy.

As with the regard to the rest of us, I remembered Tomas had mentioned it before , use it if you like it. If you don't feel free fork it.

Someone mentioned his displeasure at been at Tomas mercy (at the point of time when it was uncertain is slax development is goind to end) . He said something to the effect that if he continue using slax 7 (if there is one at that time) , in the future , he will again be at Tomas mercy.

Tomas answer was , the code will be available under gpl , be free to come out with your own distro, then yoi can make others at your own mercy.

For those who may not be aware , in slax 5 , slax actualy comes with:
(a) Console only version
(b) Standard slax with kde
(c) Server Slac
(d) Slax withxfce
(e) Special slax with kde+wine

But I guess the strain of maintaining too many version is a burden ,
plus in slax the module centre which allow user to choose customised version of slax with selective modules , actually would allowed other versions of slax , provide the necessary modules is available.

Once slax 7 module repositories is up , you can expect users to provide various modules . For ed Em (a regular module contributor) already mentioned he a xfce module done for slax 7 (since he is now using xfce since the end of kde 3).

Downloaded from slax.org and the new mirror, no problems all ok. Ran it on 6 different machines (laptops, tablet, desktop, etc), oldest is a 1.2GHz centrino with 1GB RAM (32bit version of Slax), then there were 2 machines both core 2 duo 2.0GHz with 4GB RAM, an i7 3GHz dual core 4GB RAM, an i5 with 2GB ram (Dell XPS13) and an i7 3.4GHz with 16GB RAM.

All the machine had varying graphics cards (intel, amd, etc) and all ran perfectly well except that the XPS13 didn't have its USB3.0 port detected as USB3.0 (ran at 2.0), the laptops with Broadcomm 43xx cards didn't have their wireless cards picked up. Camera's were ok for the Dell and Acer machines as well as Logitect HD cam on the desktop.

All in all, its awesome and I have no complaints on what ever choices Tomas made. If I need any changes, I'll do it myself. Needing to add in the old bootsplash is one change I'll add for sure.

One thing though is I can't find the "activate" and "deactivate" commands to insert/remove modules on the fly without having to reboot. Also the slax installer to install Slax as a full installer is not there. Either that or I have completely missed all the 3 apps when I was going through Slax7. If I have and anyone knows where they are, please let me know.

Thank you (especially big thanks to Tomas).

@rasul

1/ I do not loose my time to comment in a forum where I do not like the distro.
In another word: i like Slax.

2/ I don't personnally know who is Tomas M nor meet this nice guy.

3/ I know what a gift is.

4/ About responsibility:

When I talk about responsibility, it's *NOT* about the fact that some people may want to sue him or not, it's about consequences of his long term decision.

If you've read carrefully what I said, I explain that even microsoft who as the right to discontinue his windows XP decided to do something.
(Nothing enforce them to do something at all)

I've remember that someone take the time to explain to the owner of Slackware what is good for his distro.
And finally, after a long time, he succeeded for the good of slackware. Thanks to him.

It is what I do here, for the best of slax.

I think that everyone here like Slax:
If we like slax, we want the best for all not only for few guys.
However, the maintainer is the only guy who decided, and everyone should respect that.
Despite that, I can say "You are wrong" if this is the case.

Asking for something good that may hurt is not complaining.
(It's not a fight as kids at school...)

At this time noone want to use linux as the main OS.
One reason i've noticed is the lack of some features.
Here, slax does not run in RC3 with wifi...

How could I ask people to use slackware based OS with slax ?


@jcsoh

When you use KDE, it's because you really like it.
Gnome/XFCE are more stable...
XFCE is lighter...

I like KDE for his ergonomy but I don't want to use it at all.
(crash, big, not opensource enough, etc.)

If you prefer, I am not knew with slax, but I do not use it on an every day basis. Linux Mint is better in most cases...
There are other distro which are much better either.
I want a good slackware based live CD, so I come to slax...
Porteus (slax remix), that i've tried since 2010, seems to be better...

If slax were a debian based, I will never use it.

JC - nice to see you again.

I agree with your comments - Slax is free and we should use it as such. We can make constructive _suggestions_ but the final decision is up to Tomas in accordance to whatever agreement he has with his financial sponsors.

We should also note that sometimes the language barrier may make suggestions sound like demands and we should try to focus on what ideas are being put forth for the betterment of the distribution rather than whether its a demand or suggestion.

Cheers!

@MarkDS

"If I need any changes, I'll do it myself"

We can do that but 90% can't...

They just say : "NO Linux is not for me..."
It's for geeks.
(This explains why Linux stays under 10%...)

@jcsoh

is xfce module already there ?

@Kadalka

I agree 90% can't, but from my experience teaching at the University converting semester after semester of windows users to regular unix users, I have to say that that 90% won't really need a lot of changes. They would be happy with what Slax7 is out of the box and the ability to download modules and just insert them to get things running is very attractive - especially to a generation of users who are so used to the Apple Store and Google's Play Store.

I've been running my own distro based on Slax for life sciences education (BioSLAX) since 2006 and while I had to add certain modules for the life sciences, everything else is availble in module form, either contributed by fellow Slax users (JCSoh, Burningbush, Em and many others) or converted directly from Slackware packages.

So yes, the 90% may not be able to change what they want easily, but as I mentioned, they very seldom need much changed in the first place and there will be the 10% like JC, youself and others who can help them along.

Looking forward to see more of your suggestions and also modules from you for the Slax community.

Cheers!

Oh forgot to mention, the media player doesn't play MKV formats, but thats not a big issue, just need to download VLC and convert the package if necessary.

I think when I started with linux , I subconsciously like kde because it was the most "window xp" like.

I recalled that when I started , I couldn't recognise different desktop, then I started to recognised gnome "foot logo" and "kde K Gear and Dragon " (whatever happen to kde dragon".)

I started with
(a) Mepis
(b) Freespire which I find to be even more "window xp" like.
(c) Slax 5.1.8 because of it "frugal install" and "modular module".

Actually I like slax "Kill Bill " version first , with it's yellow background
and samurai word , and yeah and the name "Kill Bill " (you know whose 's Bill right).

But it keep crashing on me (not its fault as I cound understand how to use the mounting software )(It had a mounting utility).

At this point , actually Slax 7 fills me with dismay. KDE4 is a no no for now.
I am sticking with slax remix and kde 3 for now, but I had started converting slackware packages of software I usually used to slax 7 sb.
I guess I have to start some where , but right now basic stuffs like where is my printer get lost in kde 4. It's going to be a long road.

For what's it's worth , if I opt for xfce , I would have gone with Wolvix (now discontinue).

I tried it yesterday and have no problem with playing MKV.

MarkDs , I think vlc is not an easy to built package.
But the following slax 6 lzm work . Do a lzm2dir in slax 6, copy over the folder to slax 7 , and do a dir2sb.
http://old.slax.org/modules.php?action=detail&id=3981
(It's should be this module as it is the only one with vlc-1.1.0 all ).

But I am not too sure of the wisdom or ruuning converted slax 6 lzm or even porteus xzm . I am getting a glib 2.50 missing error , which I think is cause by one or more of the modules.

So for the simple module , I rather convert from slackware , but tracing and getting the dependencies is a pain.

For a complex package like vlc , I don't think it's do able for me.

@MarkDS

1/ 90% can't and don't have _time_ for that...

2/ university ?
Most people don't go to university... (only 20-30%)
People who really need help are the 70 % who do not put their feets to university...

We (the 30%) can handle Windows issue, but those who are 70% are Windows only user and they can't face any issues themselves most of the time...

These people need urgently Linux to be more secure...
But they can't handle Slax, but may be Linux Mint...
(excel, word, pdf, etc.)

@ Kadalka

Em mentioned he have done a xfce module, but he haven't post it .Guess , there is no proper place to post /upload slax 7 modules.

The above mentioned Anonymous user 2012-12-12 01:26 is me ...
Sorry i've forget to put Kadalka... :-p

The others Anonymous are not me...

JC, I wouldn't convert a slax6 package. Alien slackbuilds has a 2.0.4 VLC txz package, which can be converted to an sb. I just need to edit the binary to allow root to run it.

@Prcek, hmmm maybe my files are too large (HD 1080p mkvs between 7 to 12GB). Though I did note there were some issues playing full 1080p files in Google. Will need to read throughly through all of them.

@Kadalka, perhaps only a 30-40% do go the University, but I was using that as an sampling group to show that majority of new users don't need more than what is given to them. In any case, its a point of agreeing to disagree on the matter.

Cheers!

@MarkDS

1/ 30% with sample guys...
When I began Linux i've ask few things and nothing else.
So everyone acts like me: need nothing.

Few month after i've need many things...

2/ A burning GUI exist since WinXP ...
XP doesn't crash when correctly configured...
Linux do crash easily those days...

3/ Now many things are needed but not asked because few people would like to use Linux...
So no questions really come.

4/ 70% user won't ask because they are afraid to ask.
(Many forum do not respect people failures... )
So they abandonned even if they like the distro...

5/ So none of us would know what exactly is the reason why the average guy stop it.
Such as :
Friends that say it's bad (drivers issues) ?
Friends that say it's not compatible with windows software (.exe)?
Friends that say it is hard to use (command lines)?
Friends that say it's expensive if you need to repair ?
etc.
We will never know most of the time...

hi,
when you will finish the modules page?
i can't wait for that!!
and when the software center can work?
slax is the best!!

Well as I said, let's agree to disagree :)

Cheers!

@Kadalka

you're a joke
just try reading this whole blog since the beggining of the slax 7 development.

about the car comparison you did... how much r you paying to use slax? how much have you ever donate to him?

I will just add a comment about using multiple connections to download a big file -- the amount of bandwidth used is exactly the same either way. The user with multiple connections will be off the server much quicker.

@bb: From my experience, networks work strangely :) There are sometimes per-connection limits on the way, between some peers, for example one connection will never give you more than 300KB/s speed regardless of your network throughput. I'm not sure what causes this, but I noticed it many times even on my own servers (where I am certain I don't have such limitations on the server side). Sometimes downloading from the same server in several parallel connections in fact increases the download speed.

Hi Tomas,

Thanks for Slax7, very happy using it. Could you mention if you will be including activate and deactivate and slax-install.kmdr? If not I will try to replicate the scripts from the previous linuxlivelib and current livekitlib.

Thank you.

Actually, if I just copy the liblinuxlive, activate and deactivate from the old Slax 6, change the .lzm references to .sb in activate and deactivate, the activate and deactivate work fine, except there is no KDE dialog (previously in the top right hand saying that module was activated ok, or not ok or there was any error). Though I'm not too comfortable running old scripts in the new Slax. Hope there will be a new activate/deactivate for Slax7 soon.

There is the magical "slax" command. You should use "slax activate" and "slax deactivate". I will describe everything in documentation soon.

Thanks Tomas! Guess I should wait for the documentation before asking anymore questions :)

@gui

"you're a joke just try reading this whole blog since the beggining of the slax 7 development"
This is why linux could not be over 10% for many years...

Kids way of conduct.

If you think that I should do that, then I would ask you to do the same first with debian...
(read all docs, mailing lists, forums)
If you think that it is impossible then stop it.

When someone come to a distro, he did not need to read ALL the docs.
He does not even need to read the story of a part of the distro to use it.
Unless it is a bad one. Is Slax a bad distro ?
When you use Windows, do you read first all their docs ? Nope.
Does most people even know that windows have online docs ? Nope.

"how much r you paying to use slax?"

I pay something : I loose my time when I could do something else.
Few people will accept to loose their time to look for informations.
That's fair because many distros have got nice documentations...
I would like Slax to be better, so I accept to loose my time here.
If it wasn't the case, I just don't even take a look at any slax download.
Time is money.

"how much have you ever donate to him?"

A nice distro didn't ask for money the way you did it : the money comes itself.
The best way to help someone is not really to give him money but is to talk about how good is his job.
one can't afford that : bunch investors would come after that.
That why Linux Mint was first: everyone talk good things/vibes about it...
In the past everyone told me that Ubuntu is the best, but when I've seen Mint I said that it will be the best.
(In my point of view he is the best for general purpose)
Was I wrong ?

@MarkDS

We disagree because you talk about 30% when I am talking about 90% guys who have not the time to ask questions about why this run or not.
They've got children to rise, money to earn something to learn in their life/jobs/studies.

I would never want to ask people to lose some few times for a distro especially if some important things does not exist INSIDE the CD.

It's unfair, rude and disrespectful.

@gui

The car discuss:

As I said you act like a kid.
I've talk about microsoft too which is the same. Was I wrong ?

If you invite someone then the guy have a gift for you: French Champagne.
He did not know that you don't drink alcool.
Would you take the Champagne and throw it in his face ?
Nope: in my point of view you were wrong.
You should tell him that you do not drink.

The guy with champagne is me, the other side is Slax.

The day you will understand that then we would begin to agree.
Until that, stay correct and at least give some serious evidence so I would think about it...

@Tomas M

Your captcha thing is a nice idea...
(Yeah I know it's not captcha :-D)

Now I remember why I left the forums the last time, both on Backtrack and on Slax. Very little constructive suggestions on the betterment of the product, just complaints and people defending their positions and points of view to the death (myself included).

@Tomas, is it ok to email questions to you directly instead of through the forum? Thank you.

"The guy with champagne is me, the other side is Slax.

The day you will understand that then we would begin to agree."

@ Kadalka

I think you should just leave it at the point Markds states , ie "just agree to disagree"
You are practically saying you are a "gift" to slax by "paying " thru"wasting your time on slax" when you could be doing something else.

I don't how much time you had spent on slax , but to post that with a straight face really takes the cake....

Imagine everytime before we download or post on slax forum , Tomas reminding us , how much we owned him for his time , his server hosting , his computer and maintenance , paying developer , sponsoring development like aufs , etc blah blah

I be annoyed if he does that , but I won't say it's not true.

But coming in from the blue as proclaiming you self the guy with "champangne " , the "gift"

Well , humility is not one of your trait.

Markds have around for will for a while , but when he was active , he was the guy , we look for to answer winfi and network problem..

Em posted screenshot on his xfce DE on slax 7
http://old.slax.org/forum.php?action=view&parentID=83042

Regarding download speeds and Slax 6... Download speeds will be slow because there is a demand for the new release folks. If you can't wait, just Give Thomas the $25 bucks (or more) for a Slax USB pen drive - well worth it if you ask me. About the people who were complaining about Slax 6 site and all that stuff... all I got to say is Do you honestly think a intelligent person would simply DROP an entire website and then replace it with a different style? Come on people - Thomas is a developer and obviously being a developer one must think of stuff other than just zero's and ones ... sheesh!

I downloaded it two days ago and i only took 10 minutes - thanks!

@jcsoh

Thank you for taking a time to speak to me.

"I think you should just leave it at the point Markds states , ie "just agree to disagree""

We are free to comment or not.
However, I give some explanations because we are not alone: everyone read what we said.
Some people may not understand...

"You are practically saying you are a "gift" to slax by "paying " thru"wasting your time on slax" when you could be doing something else"

People that dare to say what is wrong are gifts...
Few people dare to even say Hello or thank you.

"don't how much time you had spent on slax , but to post that with a straight face really takes the cake."

I will repeat it as much as necessary if you think that it is not my tought.
By the way, I am not the guy who wants to spend his time in discuss especially if the guy in front of me can't get it.

"Imagine everytime before we download or post on slax forum , Tomas reminding us , how much we owned him for his time , his server hosting , his computer and maintenance , paying developer , sponsoring development like aufs , etc blah blah"

It doesn't annoy me if he do that: free speech is some of those few things that we can see.

Imagine that I decided to say nothing about glitches that happens in any distro ?
Imagine that Tomas dies, Who will we trust in ?

Just an example:

I've said nothing about ubuntu glitches that i've seen for years...
And nothing change...
This example tells me that probably many guys just don't want to mix up with other guys because they don't want to be in trouble especially if they know nothing about computers...

The "champagne" discuss is about the fact that if someone did not do his job then it hurts others...
Somewhere Tomas said that the question asked by a guy is not at the right place.
I agree with the statement, BUT (there's a but) when there is NO place (no forum until today) for questions where do you think that he should ask ? Hmm ?

Your mistake is the word "gift". You just don't get it that someone who is coming to your page is a gift sort of...
Even if he comes to just say 'Hello'.

"Markds have around for will for a while , but when he was active , he was the guy , we look for to answer winfi and network problem."

Even if Tomas himself said the same, I will not change what I said.
And MarkDS is not Tomas...
Unless there are evidence that I am wrong of course !

"Well, humility is not one of your trait."

Honestly ? In my point of view, you don't know what humility is if you said that.

1/ Make this test :
Go to a place where people have computers and try to talk to them about linux.
Don't look at those geeks, just the average guy that do not know linux.
After that tell me what they said and how much time you were discussing.

This test done you will understand my point of view...

2/ I've tried different kind of distros, BSD included...
When I am asked about what Linux should be taken I am in trouble.
Too many factors are needed to be known before a beginning of answer could be done.
For example, Fedora run in some computers, and do not in some others.
I've experienced the fedora issue and for years I haven't see any changes...
Same issue with some Knoppix release... It was Xorg issue.

If those issues exist for many months this is evidence that average non-experienced user, say nothing at all.
Of course, we do not blame them...

3/ If no humility is in my mind I will just do nothing with some pride.
I leave like most users...

I only stay because as I said, some people take the time to convince the slackware owner to do something for the best of Slackware.
He succeeded.
As I understand it, it takes few years...

4/ Let see if you know what I am talking about:
I've noticed that with Linux Mint, I haven't read seriously any docs.
To be clear, I've stay 20 hours. Even less...
This was what I've done since 2008, the first time where I use Mint as the main distro.
Twenty hours for Five years. You agree ?

Now I've noticed that I spend at least one hour for Slax per day, since 10 days... and every day.

I imagine january 1st of next year people telling me :
"Only morons lose 30 hours for a distro were the guy does not want to change anything as you've asked.
We remind you that you've spend 20 hours for 5 years for a good distro, when a distro which does not even have a forum has a big focus of 30 hours.
That's unfair.
"

Is it fair for you ?

PS: K. and Kadalka are the same person today.

@Scott

"Regarding download speeds and Slax 6...
Download speeds will be slow because there is a demand for the new release folks."

I think it is more a DNS issue in the world than something else.



"If you can't wait, just Give Thomas the $25 bucks (or more) for a Slax USB pen drive - well worth it if you ask me."

It depends on what is in this pendrive.
for 25 bucks I would prefer another distro...



"About the people who were complaining about Slax 6 site and all that stuff...
all I got to say is Do you honestly think a intelligent person would simply DROP an entire website and then replace it with a different style?"

1/ Making a link for a forum is easy as 1 2 3...

2/ Complaining about bad forum is the best evidence that people would like to use it.
Good docs are as important as a good distro.



"Come on people - Thomas is a developer and obviously being a developer one must think of stuff other than just zero's and ones ... sheesh!"

He could give some of fhis work to some ohter guys suchs as Linus did it with Linux...

Here I am, I've read the entire thread and I can see this discussion requires my response :) Here is how it works: I listen requests from users and I read every single blog comment here, but it doesn't mean I have to act on all requests. There are requests which I consider good idea for my purposes, and there are requests which I consider bad idea for me. An idea which is good for your needs may be entirely bad for my needs. So I pick up ideas I like, and I ignore ideas I don't like. Some suggestions may be good but require more time to be implemented, or are of lower priority than other tasks I'm focused on now.

I noticed that some people spend some amount of time on Slax and then they seem to complain. But even if they actually really complain, I don't take that personally. Everybody has different needs, different priorities. Some people like Slax but they think Slax would be much better if it offered a feature X or Y, and they seem to be DEMANDING it. It's just fine, I have nothing against it. Feel free to express your wishes! :-)

I am trying hard to make my work available for everyone and to make it useful for as many people as possible WHILE IT SUITS MY OWN NEEDS at the same time. That's basically it. Even if I would actually drop the old site or the forum entirely or made any other decision that would be really unprofessional, it's still just my choice and I don't force anybody to like to even respect my choices.

If you don't like it, don't use it :) If you like it and you think that it would be a better project if it offered a feature X or Y, then feel free to say that out loud, I really NEED all feedback, but I suggest you to try to appear less demanding :)

@Tomas M

As I said, everyone should respect your own decisions, whatever it is.
Even if you decided to delete ALL your stuff, it is YOUR decision and everyone should respect it.

As I expect, I do want a nice slax distro so I may be able to convince people to use it...

Until today it is impossible: lacks of docs, especially no forum in the main page.
Even when one have nice forum, many people hesitate to use linux/unix distros...
So, when none is given...

I don't know if you speak to me or not, but I demand nothing because I have nothing personnally to demand.

But I ask few things because I've noticed that some few things needs to be fixed.
Trust me, many guys have questions about linux Os but when it comes to explanations...

Thank you for replying.

PS: I think no one taught that you take it personally... :-)

But, yeah, who knows... :-D

@Kadalka: You're still suggesting forum. You surely think it is important. I don't. To make it clear, there will be no forum. Ever. There will be different methods how users could get help. Forum is a no go. It's obsolete. It's not the right way to solve problems.

And no, people do not need to respect my decisions. I'm not here to seek respect. My decisions are solely my problem, I'm here to make them, it's up to you to like it or dislike it, but you don't have to respect anything. You can take the entire project as it is now and make your own decisions at any time.

I agree with you about the forum thing.

1/ When I talk about forum it's the easiest way to implement something where people could discuss.

2/ Now if you would accept to use something that is more complicated to implement, I totally agree with you.

A Social Network system is welcomed but more harder to implement.
But, I really do want something like that.

3/ Nice Idea for the first time from you. :-)

Conclusion :
I use Google Plus: So why not something like that ? :P

Download speed from ftp.slax.org 570 kB/s

3 MB/sec download from new mirror to my PC in SoCal over FIOS.

Hi, im connected by Pasnet (cz rep.) i got download speed up to 8.8MB/s